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Love Is Blind (Season 8 EP 4-6) RECAP! From Political Clashes to Personal Confessions

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In the latest episodes of Love is Blind Season 8 (EP 4-6), we delve deep into the emotional complexities of love triangles, communication struggles, and the backdrop of social awareness that impacts relationships. As contestants navigate their feelings amidst misunderstandings and revelations, the urgency of aligning personal values becomes clearer, along with the ramifications of their choices.

• Sarah and Ben's ideological clash creates tension
• Love triangles complicate relationships between Alex, Madison, Mason, and Meg
• Devin and Brittany share emotional vulnerabilities 
• Trust issues arise for Taylor and Daniel amid revelations 
• Overall themes of communication and acceptance are explored

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Speaker 1:

all right, we're back. This is inspired voices reality show edition part two. We're covering me and sybil. Here we're covering love is blind season eight episodes, four through six in this episode. So yeah, last three episodes were kind of like establishing people and starting to get some love triangle things happening.

Speaker 2:

Thinking we get out of the pods, bless you. And we didn't. And, spoiler alert, we're not going to get out in these last three either. We getting comfy in here like for real blankets, like the whole deal. Um, yeah, not gonna lie, this six episode drop was a lot it's very a lot, a lot and not necessarily in the best way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true, I mean, I think in the middle of the six episodes I was like I feel like they could have cut some things out or something like that. But I guess you know, we'll see what happens and how it makes sense.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, by the sixth episode my notes start to get a little sparse. It's just like we get it. Like it's someone get a meat right um, but still, you know it's getting interesting, yeah, especially with the love triangles. Yeah, so we get into episode four entitled so your girlfriend has a boyfriend bada, bing, bada, boom.

Speaker 1:

I'm guessing this has to do with the triangles involved.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah but we're gonna start with not a triangle but a very awkward couple, sarah and ben all right. So ben asks if sarah is his girlfriend and then accidentally says he loves her, but then corrects himself and says he's falling in love with her oh, I didn't, I didn't hear that first part, oh no, there's, there's a difference. Yeah, he was like you know, because I love you, but you know, so I'm falling in love with you. Hmm. Right, and then we get into politics chat.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sarah grew up as a conservative, then didn't vote in the last election.

Speaker 2:

He's kind of Well, sarah grew up as a conservative but then went very liberal. Yeah, yeah, she's not conservative at this point from what we're getting.

Speaker 1:

Oh, she grew up conservative right. That's what I meant to say no, no, you did I did but then we didn't switch to.

Speaker 2:

She grew up conservative, but then she got liberal okay, gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there we go um my mind is going blank right now. It was a lot like it was so much no worries.

Speaker 2:

Um, so yeah, and you're like ben was like I didn't vote in the last election and like you can tell that he wants to just stay neutral. He doesn't want to have a strong opinion one way or the other, right about anything, which is a problem facts, especially for Sarah. Yeah because in Sarah asked so what are your thoughts on BLM? Like she asked about George Floyd and he was like I haven't educated myself on that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he wants to just keep, he just keeps out of it. That's what that's. He kept saying that right, I just want to keep out of it.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, you know, I need to educate myself on that. I just just stay out of it Right, and Sarah stands on business about George Floyd and she was like she don't like Ben's answers.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't like that answer yeah.

Speaker 2:

It's about staying out of it. And in all caps in my notes I have. They need to break up now Because you can tell she's very clear on where she stands. Ben is very not.

Speaker 1:

I think he would have had a harder time if they were looking at each other Because her facial expressions on his answers to the BLM and all these other things, political-wise she wasn't having it.

Speaker 2:

Right, I think it would have been harder for him to get off the hook. Yeah, you know. And then Sarah clearly was like I want someone who's in agreement on basic human rights. Yeah. You know which is fair.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And I just have Ben is beyond evasive. Like it's just like I need to educate myself on that, like sir you know.

Speaker 1:

He's giving me none. Of these problems concern me, yeah Right, so I have no knowledge of it.

Speaker 2:

And Sarah said something like that. She was like it's easy for us not to have an opinion on a certain situation, you know, because it may not affect you, but you should. You know, and it's very clear that it's very important to Sarah and that's what's going to be likely the linchpin in their relationship. Yeah, like it's seen like from the outside, looking in, and of course we see a snippet of all the time we spend together, or of all the time they spend together. It seems super clear. So it's just, it's one of those couples where I'm like I don't get it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, but it's almost like that other couple in the last season where the mom was like hard on her and she was a military and she wanted to talk about.

Speaker 1:

She was proud of being in the military. But her guy wasn't like why did you join the military? Oh, yeah, yeah, it's like that when it comes to stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

It's like value stuff you know that was an awkward one, that was. That was awkward to watch, actually, um him and his little rat tail yeah, all right um, so we go back to the men's lounge and alex of alex and madison, uh, is talking about the love triangle, that with the guys, because he realizes he's in one because madison is essentially confirmed for him in previous dates, so Alex and Mason now know they're in the same love triangle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel like tensions are rising in the men's group at this point, but everyone's still being friendly with each other.

Speaker 2:

I feel like something is just weird in the men's lounge, especially with how Alex and Mason interact, moving forward and some of the things alex does. I I don't get it yeah I feel like there's actually more attention in the women's lounge, particularly between, uh, lauren and and molly, even though molly doesn't know it. I think meg has tension with herself. Like you know, madison is not sweating it at all, yeah, but meg's over there just spinning her wheels, just just being like I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, I don't understand what's going on in the men's lounge, honestly, and this Alex and Mason interaction threw me for a loop. They were still being friendly, though. No, exactly which is I just?

Speaker 1:

don't get it yeah.

Speaker 2:

But you know we'll see. So Mason has another date with Madison. Yeah, and Mason doubles down again. I feel like I said doubles down so many times. It should be a different number at this point Right, yeah, but it gets the point Like he goes.

Speaker 1:

He has committed to her.

Speaker 2:

So much Until he's not. So he doubles down and wants to you know, quote trust his gut and admits that he's committed to her. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Clearly Took us by surprise.

Speaker 2:

No question about this.

Speaker 1:

Because he has some time to think now about this whole situation To walk away. Right.

Speaker 2:

She made it so clear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then Madison asks if she feels or if he feels like he had. Oh, madison, asked if he feels like she gave him an ultimatum, and meanwhile she's sitting on her side of the pod just looking completely uninterested. Yeah. Once again trying to give him a breadcrumb of like oh no, I didn't mean to do that, if that's what you think happened.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I was. Literally, his answers are all elusive and just like just what she wants to hear. That's it.

Speaker 2:

This is when it except she doesn't.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

This is what. It would have been helpful to be able to see each other, because, like she's trying to communicate but it's not, it's not landing. So like they kind of have this awkward conversation where, like he's committing to her and like blah, blah, blah and then they just go back to like making sex jokes, and then there's like an awkward exchange about madison liking cream pies right, yeah, again, like I said before, I feel like it's just a sexual tension that he has with her, yeah 100 so madison goes back to the women's lounge and so she doesn't know how she feels, but her reactions look like she's just not that into him, like it was very weird to me.

Speaker 2:

I was just like, and it could be once again editing. Maybe or maybe that's just her confused face, I don't know, but it looked weird.

Speaker 1:

Right, I wouldn't blame her. I mean, like he just seems like the type that mason seems like the type that doesn't make decisions in relationships he just kind of constantly wants to be like, I'll be here, don't leave me yeah, I'm your puppy, I go where you go, kind of thing yeah, that's a rough one, but then megan mason have a date.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I will say I like putting the dates back to back yeah it makes it so much easier to like a remember what they just said to their other love triangle person and be just like see the differences so clearly. Yeah, I like interactions and things like that, right? So mason says uh, oh, meg asked him like what love look like, looks like for him, and he's like it's like a big container filled with like ice cream or candy and your partner gets the best bite I thought that was nice.

Speaker 1:

I thought that was nice, I like that. What'd you think you thought differently here's the thing.

Speaker 2:

I think it's cute, but I will honestly. My first reaction was what do you have left for you like, so your partner's getting the best bite? What are you?

Speaker 1:

keeping for yourself.

Speaker 2:

Interesting that was my first thought and I just and maybe it's because of the interactions I'm seeing that I'm just like that goes back to the, the puppy thing like I follow you, then I'm just gonna give you all the things. Yeah, I don't know I'm just here, by your side, hey so then meg oh right, so then meg talks about how her butt tingles during breakups.

Speaker 1:

You can't make this up yeah, I feel like that'll be every time we get into an argument or something like that. I'm just gonna ask you like is your butt tingling? Or like maybe, if you're staying quiet, I don't know what's wrong with you. Yeah, is your butt tingling?

Speaker 2:

oh, let's talk about it I mean like it, like it's just, it's so weird because like it's not going well. So technically her butt tingles are kind of on point. Yeah. But I mean, everybody has, I guess, their different version of a Spidey sense, Right? I guess that's hers. That's hers. I can't judge hey.

Speaker 2:

Meg asks Mason if he has a strong connection with others because she just doesn't want him to just not show up one day, right? So she's trying to address the energy shift that she's been feeling for a minute that mason won't validate clearly yeah, I mean at this point it's time to make a decision oh, it's been time we could have made a decision. Episode two um so mason tells meg that he just told madison that he's committed to her. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But for some reason this is still not a breakup conversation. Yeah, and for that reason I don't know Right. I get it. And then we go back to Allison, allison to Alex and Madison. Mm-hmm. And Alex sent Madison snacks. What carrots Was that the carrot?

Speaker 1:

one, yeah, carrots and snacks, carrots. Was that the carrot one? Carrots and grapes.

Speaker 2:

And she was super excited about it she's my favorite. You know, to each their own, don't judge. Okay, don't judge. They talk about their dream houses, since Alex has been looking for houses for the past few months. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think that's a good way to build rapport.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's a good way to build rapport. Yeah, yeah, and it's a good, it's an honest conversation, like it is. How do you see? You know, how do you see? Yourself living. You know, are you somebody who wants to be in the mansion?

Speaker 1:

and, you know, have all the things which to each their own yeah are you someone who is just like oh no, I'm a minimalist and less is more, blah, blah, blah, like it matters and then he could have gone deeper with like okay, you're talking about your dream house, Now let's talk about, like, how you interact in the house, Like, are you a morning person?

Speaker 2:

To be fair, they've gone so deep so many times Like I was okay, just like oh.

Speaker 1:

But still important conversations to have True.

Speaker 2:

But I like hold my breath sometimes with this couple. It's like, oh, where are we going? What trauma are we gonna talk about?

Speaker 1:

are we trauma bonding.

Speaker 2:

What are we doing, yeah, um?

Speaker 1:

is he gonna get upset?

Speaker 2:

right, right, is he gonna pace around that couch more? Um, so they talk about where they'd want to live, and madison's fine. Either way, you know they can live. You know where they are. They can move to other places, she's fine yeah, he said that, madison was his number one, gotcha from the start which is interesting considering how he interacts sometimes.

Speaker 1:

But yes, but now we're getting into.

Speaker 2:

They are official, right um, yeah, they get there because they talk about madison mentioned she's never been in love before um, right yeah and alex confirms. Like you know, which I was very surprised by he didn't like take it as like a red flag and he was just like I think you've never been with the right people right.

Speaker 1:

Do you think that's a red flag or do you think that's?

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's a uh, it's a red flag. I think it's being. It can be very decisive about just like no, it wasn't there. Like the only way you're gonna know is by like trying to date you know, and either it happens or it doesn't. Yeah, um, let's see. And then alex reassures madison that he's not running away, despite the issue she mentioned right. So now it's finally his turn to give some reassurance. Madison's clearly feeling Alex and not Mason at this point.

Speaker 2:

Like it's very obvious, and she confirms her feelings for Alex and says that the other guy is just a friend, so seems like it's going to be smooth sailing. They make it official they're girlfriend boyfriend. They're both like weirdly like walking around the couch. They're having this whole conversation.

Speaker 2:

It's like the connection is there, even physically and then, even though it seemed like alex already knew who madison was dating, he asked specifically uh, and you know, madison confirms, you know she was eating mason. But and then alex kind of weirdly goes into how mason's a good guy yeah um didn't go too much into it, but but still questioned it, right, yeah?

Speaker 2:

and then alex goes back to the men's lounge and announces even though he knows that mason was still the other person and madison has not broken up with him yet. Announces that he has a girlfriend yeah and then madison goes back to the women's lounge and announces she has a boyfriend.

Speaker 2:

Um, but alex also says in the men's lounge that his girlfriend will break up with the other guy while mason is right there, which was super weird to me you think mason knew, yeah, that it was him yeah, I'm pretty sure they said that at one point, Like it was clear, Like that was very weird to me. And then Mason and Alex chat and Alex pretends he doesn't know it's Mason who his girlfriend is breaking up with. Yeah. Because it was Alex. Starts to throw me for a loop here. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But then we move on to Devin and Brittany and this is finally where we really get some depth yeah, true depth here that we actually get to see. Devin says he can see a future with Brittany, um, and then he tells kind of a backstory about, uh, his history with basketball how he got injured and then he went to die.

Speaker 1:

Took ibuprofen two, four times a day.

Speaker 2:

Then it turned all the way up to 20 times a day taking ibuprofen he had back pain, shooting pain, uh, his feet were going numb, like a lot of things. That resulted in that, um, and he started feeling kind of what's the point with life if he can't play Brady's weeping at this point and he finally decides he's going to go to another doctor? He's going to give it one more chance and the doctor correctly diagnoses him. Essentially his femur bone was rubbing against his pelvic bone.

Speaker 2:

He had to have a surgery on his hips to fix it. Pain goes away. Now he can play basketball. He's good. Rubbing against his pelvic bone. Yeah, he had to have a surgery on his hips to fix it. Pain goes away. Now he can play basketball he's good yeah britney's very reassuring. Don't be ashamed about this, you know just yeah, because he's never talked about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah real and you can tell he and he said, like he's carrying shame about, like how he handled the ibuprofen and like all of that. Yeah, you know she's super supportive, reassuring, and then you can tell in that moment because he just shared this deep thing. Yeah. And they just had this moment that she feels like she kind of like takes a breath and you're like uh-oh, what you about to say, and then essentially she reveals that she's bisexual, right, and that she's dated a few women, but she doesn't see herself marrying a woman right and from what we can see, it just looks like Devin is kind of tensed up yeah, he doesn't know what to make of it because he's never processed, he's never dealt with something like that yeah, it definitely didn't come up like, oh, I'm just taking it and tried.

Speaker 2:

It was like no, I'm thinking about this, I need to process this yeah. I didn't expect it. Yeah, brittany confirms that, regardless of like she's attracted to people, but regardless of who she's attracted to, she's still monogamous, so it doesn't matter who she's going to be with. When she's with one person, she's with one person yeah but britney can tell things have shifted and she said like, hmm, like I don't feel like you know, this is something that you know like the supports being reciprocated.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's tough. Yeah sir he after she told him that, like her reaction to his story compared to his reaction to her story, painful that was painful, like that I would have got my feelings wouldn't got hurt.

Speaker 2:

My feelings were hurt. They were hurt for her yeah and I was just like oh, because like you could, you could see that like I don't think she was planning on telling that story right but he just had such a vulnerable moment with her that she took a leap yeah and she wasn't met with the same understanding.

Speaker 2:

And that's rough, especially when he's just like I can see myself proposing to you, right? Um, so devon goes back to the men, the men's lounge, and he's telling them, like he doesn't say exactly what she spoke about, but he says, like I don't know how to respond to what she admitted. You know, yeah, and you know. Now he's back to it seems a little more obvious like he doesn't know who to pick, because he's like I don't know who to pick. And I think had Brittany not said that and revealed that truth about herself, he would have been more clear on that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah which wouldn't have been good for her. That's true or fair to her, you know. So that was definitely a rough one. Yeah, it was, and.

Speaker 2:

Then Brittany goes back to the women's lounge and with Virginia there, her competition, you know, discussed that like she knew. The mood shifted, you know, and like how difficult that is and like also being like I was just there for him and I didn't feel like I was getting back the same Right, you know. And then we see like this dichotomy, because then devon and virginia have a date like right afterwards.

Speaker 1:

Devon wants to continue the deep conversation, talk with her as well, but she says that she's shy and and she doesn't really open up like that and he kind of tries to break through that wall right, but she admits that she has feelings for devon um and he, you know, vice versa yeah, and virginia said that she doesn't put much into dating, like put much effort into dating she doesn't have to, she's beautiful yeah you know she's beautiful, she's smart, when you don't have a scarcity mindset about men or like your partners in general, like there's always gonna be a next one yeah, there's not that much pressure.

Speaker 2:

But then also she mentioned that she didn't have any examples of positive relationships outside of her grandparents right so it could be a bit of a combo yeah like I got men knocking down my door, so they'll be.

Speaker 1:

They'll be another one yeah and then eventually, like you know, you'll figure it out and then devon starts to go into his story again yep, right, about what happened with the pills and all that stuff, and her response was a little bit different than Brittany's.

Speaker 2:

She didn't affirm him the same way.

Speaker 1:

Right, and eventually it was good the way she affirmed him Right. But in the beginning it was just like, yeah, I'm sorry that happened. Yep, I'm like, oh, that's it Damn. It was just like yeah, I'm sorry that happened.

Speaker 2:

I'm like oh, that's it Damn. And then she ended it with like you know, the experiences like that are supposed to bring you closer to God, you know, and that was kind of like it wrapped in a bow. But if you play those moments kind of back to back between Virginia and Brittany, they just had very different approaches, right. But it was so interesting because then at the end of the clip you see devin kind of being like you're right, thank you, and it just being a such a which one do you think was better, britney's or virginia's?

Speaker 1:

I?

Speaker 2:

don't want to say better, but britney, um, totally no, it just seemed. It seemed that they were just on the same level when they were speaking Right. And really connecting when it wasn't. I don't want to say pity, but like with Virginia, it seemed a little bit just more like oh, I'm so sorry that happened. Like, let me give you some words of encouragement Versus Brittany, who was like I will hold you down, don't feel ashamed about that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I just feel like the passion was made like Brittany was more like.

Speaker 1:

I got your back yeah, kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, virginia was more words of encouragement, but Brittany was, I got you exactly. Um, then we move on to Taylor and Daniel. Um, my notes say, uh, boring, and there's really not that much that goes on here. But Taylor does say that her dad is sick and she's had some thoughts about she may have to leave. And Daniel, to his credit, says you know, I wanna let you know, like if you have to leave and you couldn't talk to me about it, I would find you and it's a good line and it's what she wanted to hear. So that was nice. All right, we go back to the women's lounge. Once again, more Lauren and Molly. Tension in this love triangle is building. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then we see a date with Molly and David. Yep, David asks if there's a specific ring she would like. I mean that's.

Speaker 1:

Important question.

Speaker 2:

Big question Gold or?

Speaker 1:

silver, they're both gold.

Speaker 2:

They are both gold. Yeah, molly doesn't know the names of rings, but you know she's unique. Maybe have an emerald.

Speaker 2:

Hey, that helps him out. Just get one. Just get one. Make it gold. Just make it a ring. Yeah, david confirms. Yeah, it's starting to separate and Molly could be it. Then we go back to the women's lounge and Laura needs space between her and Molly for the day. She's clearly picking up on how Molly's feeling after the date. Molly finally realizes that Lauren is David's other person. She thought it was a whole other girl this whole time. Yeah. And it finally clicks. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

David then goes in, has a date with Lauren. Lauren essentially lays it all on the table and she's just like Molly said that she was your number one connection when. Molly came in the lounge and David's like wait a minute, not what happened, and he didn't want to get caught up in the quote. Unquote girl drama.

Speaker 1:

Right. Which was not cool, that was a triggering word right there.

Speaker 2:

It just wasn't, and she's like I don't think that's what. This is, right, you know. So they go back and forth and that basically concludes our episode four. Then we get in episode five. Breaking up is hard to do. We're hoping that some things are like finally going to make a move here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, stop dragging all this out, right? Yeah, geez.

Speaker 2:

Lauren goes back into a date with David, she's not even sitting down, Like she is hot. She's walking around that couch, not having it yeah. David acknowledges that he and Molly are the same person, but admits that they haven't gone deep this many days in Right, which is also really weird. And then Lauren's like but I don't understand how you can connect the same way that we did which is a fair question like, but I don't understand how you can connect the same way that we did, which is a fair question, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I don't think David understands that either, and Lauren is flat out, just like David. You are the reason I am still here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like she's. He's the only one Right.

Speaker 2:

Right, he says Dave's like well, I thought you were kidding, like he thought Lauren was kidding with how serious she was when she was like cancel your other dates.

Speaker 1:

Oh right, I mean, she did say it in a playful way though, you know.

Speaker 2:

She did, but I feel like Lauren has been very clear that like she's all in on him, yeah, for a long time, right?

Speaker 1:

no-transcript it confirms that he never told Molly that she was his number one choice, and didn't I say that just before. Molly and David, yeah, david says Molly is her number one from day one.

Speaker 2:

Right, and then he comes back and confirms that that never happened.

Speaker 1:

Yeah To Lauren. So a gaslight right there.

Speaker 2:

Basically, yeah, but I think he's also gaslighting himself Like it's ridiculous at this point. He's like I'm trying to think back. I don't know what happened, Lauren, at this point. Have you ever watched Grey's Anatomy?

Speaker 1:

No, well, some of it.

Speaker 2:

All right. So Meredith Grey, the lead character, at one point says to the guy she's in love with pick me, choose me, love me. Lauren is giving that right now. She literally was like pick me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like full stop.

Speaker 1:

Like why aren't you picking me?

Speaker 2:

Right, like I'm here, yeah, and David mentions that he feels like he may be reverting back to his old ways and he's scared of his feelings towards her.

Speaker 1:

So that's the holdup, you think because she's different from what he's used to Right.

Speaker 2:

And like how he feels. You know, he's so different with her. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1:

Right and his heart is throbbing and deciding on which girl and stuff like that.

Speaker 2:

Whereas Molly's the one he just has so much fun with. She's the one he just has so much fun with, and she's the same person as him, right? We go back to the women's lounge and the ladies notice that Lauren has been in the pod for an hour and a half when Molly had gone back and was like well, I'm expecting him to break up with her. So that's when they were like, well, why is she in there so long? Are they just breaking up? Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So then Madison tells Lauren that Molly was like yeah, they said David was gonna break up with you. And then Madison, straight up, was like I think he's playing that both of you yeah which is also I like Madison like that's a friend yeah, you know. So then we take a break from that drama and then we get back to Devin and Brittany. This, this conversation was loved it. Chef's kiss for me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, she went in and kind of just went, laid it out on the table and just kind of broke it up with Devin.

Speaker 2:

Let's pull the plug. Yeah. You know, she was like I woke up sad, you know.

Speaker 1:

We're not each other's person.

Speaker 2:

No, Gave him the breakup speech Right. And Devin is still pretty shut down like kind of hands quietly folded. Yeah, I was like okay.

Speaker 1:

And you know what? Yeah, he was kind of like accepting of it. He said bye and then, surprisingly, because Brittany came in with wanting to break up with him, he left first, but she stayed in the pod she did For quite a while it seems like staring. Yeah, I was like. Oh damn, I'm surprised. I thought she would have left first, you know but I think she let him off the hook.

Speaker 2:

She knew what was coming yeah and I, but I was just so happy that she was like you just didn't support me and she didn't try and run after him right and make it something that's not right. Uh, but then devon goes in with virginia and, you know, confirms it's official. Um, it's officially just them.

Speaker 1:

Uh, you give each other gifts right oh right, it's the matching passport cover. And, oh, she gave him her, or loaned him, or showed him her grandmother's ring yeah which was interesting it represents love that she desires, the love that she desires exactly and he gave her a cutting board to cook on with the best.

Speaker 2:

It was like this big and I was like what are you gonna cut on that? Some garlic, some vegetables, um, and the small ones right and a necklace. But yeah, now they're just like smooth sailing. I guess it was a weird. Yeah. I hope the timing of that wasn't that accurate.

Speaker 1:

Probably.

Speaker 2:

We get back to Ben and Sarah, to which I say why are they still talking? Sarah confirms that she feels like this is it? And then it gets funny because they're having this like deep conversation and the camera angle is weird and it's cut off half of Ben's body and you just see his legs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're like out of camera.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but then Sarah is also like but I still want to talk about like some deeper things, but they don't really go into it right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And Sarah goes back to the women's lounge, um, and she actually starts talking with lauren and she's like you know, she wants to know if they're on the same page about the social issues or at least if ben wants to learn about them, because she's not sure. And I think lauren was like but do you have enough time? Which is a fair question, right, we go back to ben and sarah. Uh, they acknowledge their connection, but you know, sarah needs to reassurance about social issues and Ben's like I don't want you to have to teach me, you know, but she will. And Sarah concedes to that and just says you know what? I totally believe in it. And then he proposes, or she accepts yeah, let's see. We have the women's lounge and Lauren goes on on this conversation.

Speaker 2:

she's like I don't think I'm dumb and I don't think molly's dumb yeah but one of us is delulu because, like she's, like like, but she might be behind, like with david, like they can't figure it out. Yeah, and the energy has, like it's clear at this point. It is weird. In the lounge they acknowledge it you know lauren's distancing herself like something's off in the lounge. So we go back to david and molly. David has been crying for the last hour.

Speaker 2:

This dude is a mess at this point, yeah and he doesn't know what to do with his feelings this was such a red flag to me because he says how can I be such a different person like hours ago? You think he was talking about the, the crying, not crying I think he's talking about with different people, but I can see your point. But I was like, oh, sir, uh, he said it's harder to be the best version of himself and molly pretty much just lets him off the hook.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no pressure yeah, she says I, I don't think you're a bad person either way, you know she says she's not going to force anything. Molly's pretty much just telling him what to do at this point. Facts yeah.

Speaker 2:

Molly, literally, is the one who is like she helps him make a decision. Yeah. He admits that he has to see it through with Lauren and have his more of a commotion emotional connection, but he hates that it's like that though yeah and Molly. Let's him know like well it sounds like you made your decision yeah, yeah, and she's okay with it yeah she's a rock star and I'm gonna strive

Speaker 2:

she just wants someone to choose her for her exactly, and you know she called it, said he's trying to make her make the decision yeah, for him, yeah you know, but he was like. I thought I was very clear he was not no, he was not clear as mud um, go back to the women's lounge and then molly and lauren talk. Molly, you know, is crying um and just lets lauren know that she didn't say anything in front of her on purpose, like that wasn't her intent yeah, yeah lauren acknowledges you know what was happening and says yeah, then you know this.

Speaker 2:

This whole thing was the reason I was distancing myself yeah you know, and Molly's promises says promises were made. She's like trying to be like look, I'm not crazy, though like promises were made and you know, but knows that David wants to to pursue things with lauren and lauren point blank period says point blank period. He should not have put us in this position, right, which I appreciate it.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate they weren't fighting each other that's true and like realize what the scenario was exactly and it was a genuine grown-up conversation it was yeah you know, lauren goes back in with dave after this and dave says he's scared to be happy and scared that his mind can change so much in one day yeah, that's, that's. That's a red flag for me I think it was a red flag for lauren too, because she was like, yeah, I'm scared of that too right you know, and lauren asked if promises were made meeting to Molly about ending things with her, and Dave was like no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1:

And then he goes on a little rant right there about like Molly and like damn he's going to be. He's digging himself into a hole at that point.

Speaker 2:

He was playing semantics.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like.

Speaker 2:

I didn't promise it.

Speaker 1:

You know, I said yeah, I remember one time Molly did this and that, and then the way she did this and like no, no, no, no, don't be saying just stop, just stop, stop crying, stop talking, just stop.

Speaker 2:

So Dave says Molly didn't really care and she was way too cool about the breakup, like you're saying, digging himself a ditch. Yeah. Lauren acknowledges that he likely said things that made Molly feel how she did. Yeah, appreciated that Dave's like Molly was never my number one. Like don't feel like that's true, like still like. And when Lauren's like trying to move past it, yeah, let's see Still. Word is sisters are going to freak out. And then Dave went back to look at his notes to figure out if he loved Laura.

Speaker 1:

Did I say that?

Speaker 2:

And then I just have in my notes so much therapy is needed.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

And then he starts reading his notes to reaffirm, like I do. Then we go to Daniel and Taylor. They give gifts, Daniel's giving, they both give christmas gifts right so daniel gives a christmas stocking. They both have to find out they have the same stocking. Um, it says that that's the one he uses his christmas photos yearly. Uh, and taylor gives daniel a christmas ornament in hopes that like it's like a, I think, an ornament with, like, the family's photos on it so in hopes that he'll be in it next year. Right right.

Speaker 2:

And then Taylor asks what is his biggest insecurity? And Daniel was like well, he didn't grow like his height.

Speaker 1:

Like he was an eighth and ninth grade. He was a small, small child.

Speaker 2:

Like five, eight, it's not that deep. And then Taylor talks about her body and like she doesn't weigh herself anymore and like the pressure. And it was interesting because I was wondering if that was going to be one of those things where, like, I can't remember where we've seen her or what season, if it was this or the ultimatum or what, when somebody was like, oh, I was concerned about my weight or something like that, and then, like the other person takes it as, oh, you know know they may not be in shape, and blah blah blah and like they run with it.

Speaker 2:

So I was curious. I was like oh, is he gonna run with it? Right but he didn't, and instead he was just like yeah, I don't, I don't weigh myself either, you know, and just kind of dropped it there. And then they have this weird conversation about whether Daniel knows what Taylor looks like from Instagram and immediately I was like oh wait, is going to be the couple from the promo? Like this is a weird conversation. But then we move on to the reveal of Sarah and Ben.

Speaker 1:

Mm, hmm, he sprints out that door. Yes, he does.

Speaker 2:

And she, she walks towards him and I was like, was like oh, she's giving a look, like she's slightly smiling, but like it was nothing's really there face right right yeah, yeah, it was a little weird and he cries, like when they like he ran to her and then like they hugged, like he starts to cry a little bit right like they kiss, and then he does their proposal thing, cute kiss nothing to write home about and they both said I love you oh, they did, they did

Speaker 2:

yeah um, once again we're doing a lot of champagne drinking this reveal season.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, um I mean, it's a moment to drink champagne, so it makes sense she, she also breaks out in hives yeah um, and I'm not sure.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure where those hives are coming from. Was it like I'm nervous or I'm not happy, Like? I'm not really sure.

Speaker 1:

Which one is it?

Speaker 2:

And then they kind of check themselves out in the mirror but then like walking back, like when he walked her back, like they made out some so it was like okay, well, they're physically attracted to each other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it was like okay, well, they're physically attracted to each other. Then we go back to Lauren and Dave. He finally proposes Right, so we're out of there, finally, jesus. And then we go back to the men's lounge and they're talking to Mason and he looks just a little defeated, right. You know him and Mason haven't even broken up yet and he looks defeated, right.

Speaker 1:

But then it's weird because he says like he doesn't know if he's proposing or not. Yeah to the guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and he's like under, you could tell the pressure is just getting to him. And then we also remember he hasn't broken up with meg either. So then we're like well, wait a minute. Who are you proposing to? Yeah, and like you could tell by his response, the guys were like this is good because you know, alex has probably already talked to them and be like she's breaking up with him, she's dumping him and he's the only one who doesn't know right you know.

Speaker 2:

So then we get into the pause with madison and mason. Madison finally breaks up with mason like stop doing the breadcrumbs. Yeah, it's done.

Speaker 1:

Yeah oh wait, didn't she? Uh, yeah, no, no. So uh, mason and madison, right, yeah, so madison, they. Madison mason brings in food right full plate pancakes big ass, pies, eggs all that and as soon as they get in, madison breaks the fuck. She just breaks up with him he's like I'm not eating this now because that was my question.

Speaker 2:

I was like you think he's gonna eat it?

Speaker 1:

yeah, it's him at that point like do you, do you take the food?

Speaker 2:

he did, he did does she, does she take the food.

Speaker 1:

I know, but would you take the food?

Speaker 2:

yeah, that's a full meal but uh, that's the best part is she's like why I assumed you already knew, but it's not a mess up. She told alex. So, like it's, it's a little weird. Um, oh, but also during this breakup, mason steps in it because he starts trying to backtrack and being like, um, like his statement about being committed to Madison. Right. And he's like yeah, you know, I just didn't feel right. And Madison was like, yeah, I kind of saw that. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and Madison let Mason know that she already talked to Meg and he may have lost the both of them because he was trying to keep two good things going. And you see Mason kind of like put his hand in his head or his head in his head and be like, oh shit, yeah. You see Mason kind of like put his hand in his head or his head in his hand and be like, oh shit, yeah. And Madison ended the conversation by telling him to like just be honest in your other conversations today. Right, and I was like wow, it was a bit of a mic drop but it was true, the most basic thing you could do, just be honest.

Speaker 2:

Let's try it. Go back to the men's lounge. Mason, lets the guys know that he got broken up with yeah. And weirdly enough, alex is the one that comes up and hugs him and then Mason's like. He's like, well, I'm worried about what's being said in the women's lounge and he says that. Mason says he had clarity about what he'd said previously. He got clarity the night before. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And he knew it didn't feel right and was gonna bring that up today. Yeah, lies um. And then we head over to the women's lounge yeah and madison's telling meg she doesn't think she'll be impressed and you know, meg doesn't know what she's gonna do. I was very shocked that meg was still so confused right you know, that's true.

Speaker 1:

And then they said that they were going through like an ego death in this process. Right, Virginia said that to her.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Virginia said that to her yeah, and because Meg honestly and accurately was like a lot of this is about my pride, because she straight up was like how am I going to know? If he really wanted me? If she already broke up with him, was 100 accurate and fair? But then they're like encouraging her, like not to let her ego a lot, not to let it be about her pride, and I'm like, well, not just about her pride, like this is shady af yeah, yeah common sense says problems right, there's more layers to it, right, for sure so then meg and mason meet.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I had no idea what was gonna go down here, because meg was so all over the place yeah, and it was.

Speaker 1:

It's a it's like a tv moment, right, like, is she gonna say yes because of the cameras?

Speaker 2:

that's where my mind was going and how many times have we seen it? Right when we're like. Please don't and they do so. Mason says that he just validated madison and when he did it it just didn't feel right. So this is what he's telling Meg to get out of it. And he said it. You know, he's just like. I just said it to the wrong person.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

You know, and Meg wants to know if he felt confused before or after Madison picked Alex. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Which my queen, yes, he never really answered that question, did he? I don't think he did. I don't think he clarified it, because I think she shut it down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and was just like I. You know, I need somebody who would know and he tells her that she's her his number one, and it doesn't matter, nope, um, because yeah it goes it goes straight into episode six yeah do I know you? We're back, right back in with mason and meg, and this is where she ends it. Meg doubles down and won't be able to get past, not knowing if he would have picked her not just her, but the people who are going to be talking to her about it as well and I just thought she will be so relieved when she's watching this back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Because it's clear, at least from what they're showing us, he wanted Madison, yeah, but Madison wasn't having it, yeah, and before she ended it too, like Mason was just running out of ideas of how to stay and make that work.

Speaker 2:

He was just saying the same thing. I saw the wrong person.

Speaker 1:

You know, you're number one.

Speaker 2:

So then we go to Daniel and Taylor. He proposes yeah. So then we walk into the reveal of Lauren and David and it was a long-ass hug. It was a long-ass hug.

Speaker 1:

They were both shaking really bad.

Speaker 2:

Yes, right.

Speaker 1:

The ring almost didn't fit. I noticed that, but I don't know if it's because of the shaking or if it's that's what I took it as.

Speaker 2:

He's like yeah. He kind of like let her take over, get it on there, but I will say they had the most genuine moment I think I've ever seen in a Love Is Blind reveal. And Lauren was like I'm so sweaty, I feel like I smell, yeah, and he was like it's okay. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

He didn't say she didn't smell. He was just like it's okay. And I feel like that. I'm an awkward sweater too. I get nervous, so I get it but I like that moment. That was nice and they do hold hands the whole time while they're sitting down. Yeah, you know like it got a little awkward, but I think it may have just been more of like first reveal jitters versus not not being attractive yeah uh, there were some awkward moments in there for sure, like she says like what do you think?

Speaker 1:

and he says I don't, I don't know. I say, oh, I think they were so nervous they didn't know what to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but Dave, not knowing what he thinks, kind of does track.

Speaker 1:

Um, then we go to Devon and Virginia and they also have to figure out a lot, uh, about the relationship too. Yeah, they were saying that other couples have been like oh well, we're gonna buy this house, we're gonna move in together and they were like we haven't talked about that and she's like oh yeah, it's okay, we just have to figure it out well, they were in a love triangle trying to figure out who was going to pick much less how they're going to live their lives right, right.

Speaker 1:

I think they were focused on that a little bit too much than how to have this conversation relationship work. Lauren was trying to tie him down yeah, and, and then figure it out, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, then we go to Devon in Virginia. Devon proposes let's see. Then we get back to Allison Oof Allison, alex and Madison. All right, this is some of the most intense notes I had, because this was nuts. Yeah, so we're doing gifts. Madison gives Alex a rock. She collects them. Alex gives Madison a book of pictures that his grandma drew.

Speaker 1:

I forgot about. I think about Argentina, or something.

Speaker 2:

I can't remember. Yeah, no, guatemala, guatemala, you're right, he says Guatemala I remember you commenting on that, yeah, and then Madison's second gift to Alex is a used paintbrush. So we're thinking things are going smoothly. Yeah. And then Alex brings up his biggest concern about avoidance.

Speaker 1:

Again with this avoidance thing. Man, let it go, move on or break it off. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Well, Madison encourages him to trust that she'll do what she says. And then Alex weirdly starts to bring up mason repeatedly yeah, he would not let that go and he just kept being like well, I can see where mason's coming from, right, you know he's a good guy, right, and he just kept going on, and on about it to the point where it's like are you dating mason?

Speaker 2:

like it was very awkward and uncalled for, and then madison literally tells him what she needed him to do for her in that moment was to validate her yeah, she's definitely feeling invalidated and not to just go on and on about how mason is great and alice keeps, just keeps, just saying I guess I'm too understanding right, he's giving me all lives matter. Facts, yeah. And then Madison starts tapping her cup with her nails.

Speaker 2:

And I'm not going to lie, I can relate Like there's a moment where you're just like I need you to stop talking, right, and instead of saying something, mean, she's going to be like I'm just going to tap and think, yeah, and he's like you're tapping a lot over there, uh-huh, she's like, once again, alex says he's hesitant because of their communication, but this girl communicates more clearly than anyone ever on this show yeah, in my opinion and alice, alice, jesus christ, alex breaks up with madison that's crazy this was not on my bingo card, no, you can tell that, madison, it was not on our bingo card either why would it this date was so weird?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it started out great with gifts. Then he randomly starts talking about mason and defending him ad nauseum. And then, when she tells him clearly what she needs, he then is like well, I'm concerned about our communication yeah make it make sense right. I was upset about that and I was also mad, because we spent six episodes invested in this right the triangle. Nobody won, not Meg and Madison, not Ale alec or meg and uh mason that's crazy man.

Speaker 1:

I really wanted to see meg madison through all like throughout the episodes I'm just like why we have to spend so much time in this, she would have probably been like the one that's grounded throughout the episodes.

Speaker 2:

I think would have been hilarious. I think she would have been a great, uh like uh narrator, especially for other couples too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think would have been hilarious.

Speaker 2:

I think she would have been a great uh like uh narrator, especially for other couples too. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I think would have been very funny very true so I was quite irritated that we spent that much time for nothing. Yeah, right yeah, then we go into devon and oh, then we go into devon and virginia's reveal. I'm gonna let you just see you there. You had a lot of opinions about Devin and Virginia's reveal.

Speaker 1:

They were shaking a lot, you know they.

Speaker 2:

They were shaking a lot.

Speaker 1:

He had a hard time getting the ring on. You know, at first I was like I don't think it's going to fit, I don't know. And then a lot of thank yous. Oh my God, so many thank yous, so awkward. Thank you, you're so pretty.

Speaker 2:

Thank you and like her looking down right the whole time, the whole time I'm like damn, I'm telling you, I think she was trying to avoid a kiss.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think so too.

Speaker 2:

It was very awkward, yeah, and they haven't kissed like the whole time.

Speaker 1:

They didn't kiss until they were leaving.

Speaker 2:

We that her dad thinks she's on a spiritual retreat. He doesn't know she's there. Yeah, that's going to be awkward. Yeah, how are you going to lie to your daddy and say you're on a spiritual retreat and you're on reality TV? Like pick another lie.

Speaker 1:

And then you're setting him up terribly by doing that. Yeah, so they're rambling without even a kiss, and then they finally kiss at the end.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but she looked tense though, yeah and even when she walked away, she kind of had her hands up like this and kind of walked away Right, all right, then we do, I think, our last reveal. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Daniel and Taylor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

He's still worried about his height. Yeah, before he goes out there he's talking about his height again and if she's going to be taller and stuff like that, about his height again, and if she's gonna be taller, and stuff like that. And me personally, I have dated somebody who is taller than me and I didn't like it when she would put her arm around my shoulder because I felt really short and I was like, no, don't do that so you love the fact that I'm way shorter than you.

Speaker 2:

Yes, there you go. I'm happy that we could do that for each other yeah, me too um, so the door is open and they both awkwardly say hello hello yeah, they like hugged, you know, shook hands yeah oh wait, no, we should hug right, yeah, yeah it's a little weird.

Speaker 2:

Of course we got the proposal. She's maybe she's an inch, maybe inch and a half, two inches taller than him in heels, yeah, so he actually didn't say anything about that, right, she was like he's a little shorter, but like she didn't seem like not much of a difference, right right.

Speaker 2:

So then we get to 24 hours later and we're at the women's hotel and then Taylor's being interviewed. It's about to go down and she, according to the interview, she's realized that daniel was so familiar to her and thought that that wasn't the first time that he had seen her. According to taylor, she believes that daniel had followed her on instagram not long before coming on the show. Yeah, and her instagram has details about her that would have clued him in about her, like the taco bell thing christmas.

Speaker 2:

What she does and like christmas, you know. So she thinks he knew exactly what she looked like when talking in the pods and then, to my surprise again, they actually meet up and talk about it they do. Taylor drops the info about him following her on instagram and said he followed her and then unfollowed her, and then daniel like denies it and he's like I don't need to talk about.

Speaker 1:

Well, he says if, if, if I did follow you, I probably just followed you and unfollowed you, or something like that.

Speaker 2:

Which is like also still her point and makes no sense. Right. So then, taylor's like. Well she describes the profile picture. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Which also, like you know, kind of is easy for her to deny, or one of the pictures on his Instagram account.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the one she thought would have followed her. Yeah yeah, and Daniel's like no, like there's a picture of me in front of a fireplace but I'm not holding a drink. And she's like, oh, you know, well, that's the one that was, you know, following me Right, right Now according to Taylor they also had people in common on their profiles, but there's really, they just kind of leave it and she does say you know, I have grown to like, love this person, which is also just like okay yeah um, and then we just get coming up scenes yeah you know the honeymoons.

Speaker 2:

Uh, lauren and dave may be in trouble in paradise from. You know this little clip joey has ocd, which I don't know how. We're just hearing about this now right um been in sarah meet the parents. I think that's going to be interesting. Um meeting of the love triangles, the couples are coming together yeah, and we have the couples who didn't even make it to the honeymoon.

Speaker 2:

They all broke up and they're about to meet. Right, uh, madison's pink hair now, so that'll be interesting. Um, and we only see joey and monica at the altar. Now we know some other people walk, because I know there's at least a blonde, but those are the only two people.

Speaker 1:

We see their faces yeah, are you calling it? Are they the uh, the gemstones of the season?

Speaker 2:

I probably, from what we've seen from these first six episodes. Yes, yeah we will see what happens with the next drop yeah but I mean, is there a couple that you're seeing that you think would make it at this point, besides them?

Speaker 1:

Nope, it's all bad, bad, bad, bad.

Speaker 2:

It's love is blind. It's love is blind.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think that wraps it up for Love is Blind. Season 8 eight episodes four through six, the recap, the opinions.

Speaker 2:

Next week we will talk about the next batch of episodes. If they drop another six, we'll break it up into three and three. It's a lot of content to cover, so we like to break it down. So it gives people a little more time to watch and makes it a little more digestible. So yeah, we'll be back to talk about whatever's happening next.

Speaker 1:

That's a wrap.